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Thanks for your inquiry. I used two very similar printer models while print testing the the Weatherproof Vinyl for Laser label material - the HP Color LaserJet Pro M252dw and the HP Color LaserJet Pro M452dn. Both printers worked great with the vinyl label material, and were capable of producing high-quality color prints that were extremely durable to moisture and heavy handling.

I haven't used the specific HP LaserJet model referred to in your post, but I've been very happy with the performance of every other LaserJet unit that I've had the opportunity to use with our label materials. I think you'll be very pleased with the printer's performance on the vinyl material.

If you'd like to try samples of the OL3536LV before making a purchase you can request a free sample pack at the link below:

https://www.onlinelabels.com/General/SamplesSelectItems.aspx

I hope this information helps. If you need anything else please just let us know.

I typically use Labels, Matte Photo, or Other Photo paper as the material type when printing on the weatherproof vinyl material with an HP LaserJet printer model. Please just let me know if you need any additional details.

I'm sorry to hear about the issue you're experiencing. I haven't had a chance to use the HP Color LaserJet Pro M454, but I do have access to the M452dn model which should be very similar in terms of functionality. I've typically had the most success using photo settings with the weatherproof vinyl material, specifically the HP Matte Photo 200g setting. This paper type setting has routinely provided excellent print quality and durability across a wide range of label designs and artwork. If your printer model has a comparable setting I'd definitely recommend giving that a try. In addition to the HP Matte Photo 200g setting, I've also had success using the Labels paper type setting. If you haven't already, it's probably worth trying that paper type setting as well.

If you've already tried the adjustments mentioned above, the manual for your printer model lists a few potential solutions for improving the print quality on the glossy setting. You can access the online version of the manual at the link below:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c06322617.pdf

- Calibrate the printer to align colors. Calibration can help resolve a wide variety of print quality issues. See page 111 in the manual for steps on completing the calibration process.
- Check the EconoMode settings on your printer. EconoMode can help conserve toner usage, but it can also result in lighter, less durable print. If it's enabled, you should definitely try disabling the option. Details can be found on page 112-113 of the manual.
- Manually adjust print density. Increasing the density should provide darker colors and a more even print. This setting can only be accessed by using the printer's IP address in a web browser. Instructions can be found on page 113 of the manual.

Some combination of the appropriate paper type setting with the troubleshooting suggestions provided above should improve your print quality. I hope this helps. If you need any additional information please just let us know.

The EconoMode setting should be located in the Paper/Quality tab of your print driver settings, as a checkbox option in the Print Quality section. That's where the setting is located on my HP Color LaserJet Pro M452dn. I don't have access to the M454 model to confirm, but based on the similarity between the two printers I would imagine that's where you'll find the EconoMode setting in your printer options.

I've thoroughly combed through the manual for your printer model at this point, and I'm not sure there's much further to suggest regarding troubleshooting techniques. Are you using official HP toner cartridges? I have seen instances where remanufactured or third-party toner cartridges can cause issues with print durability and toner fusion. These issues likely won't occur when printing on plain paper, but may arise with specialty materials like weatherproof label materials.

I'd recommend reaching out to our customer service team so that they can take a closer look at the material you've purchased. If you can provide them with the lot numbers of the material that's causing the issue they should be able to check and see if the material itself has any complaints logged. If they determine that there may be an issue with a material lot that you received, they'd be able to send you some sample sheets from a different production lot to determine if the issue is isolated to a specific material lot. You can reach our customer service team by dialing 1-888-575-2235, or by submitting a support ticket at the link below:

https://secure.onlinelabels.com/support/SupportRequest.aspx

If for any reason you decide you can't use the material that you've purchased you can initiate a product return with one of our customer service representatives, or by initiating a return at the link below:

https://www.onlinelabels.com/support/returns

Please just give our customer support team a call, or submit a ticket, and they'll be more than happy to continue looking into this issue for you.

I just wanted to touch back with you. I've been dealing with my HP for over a year, had 2 of this model, and also 1 480. Also used multiple computers and software to try to find the issue.
HP is weird, and their help is beyond useless.

This particular paper works best on heavy glossy, when the HP is behaving.
But sometimes its a single sheet, sometimes its every print for a month, it'll just go whacko and act like it's in the described Economode.
The 454's are listed as "some have an economode" but it's never an actual option to turn on or off.
the 480 is has no mention of this mode.

But anyways, when the machine goes whacko, heavy glossy turns to garbage. Its faded, solids look like a pattern, and often has white spots.
Photo Matte 200g looks ok while the machine is whacko, but the red does not fuse. the red will flake off when the stickers are peeled.
So you have to print something else on the same sheet to run it through twice. it does not look as good as heavy glossy when the machine is normal, and you still have a little flaking, and the smell of toner gets a lot worse, but running it through twice makes it "almost good enough".

when the machine stops being whacko, photomatte will use WAY too much toner and make a huge mess inside your machine.
and once cleaned, heavy glossy is the way to go.

I honestly do not get it. especially when it only happens for one print. HP is making me crazy.

I've only been using this particular paper since Oct, but this has been a problem for at least 13 months with other label paper with these 3 different HPs.

At any rate, I'm convinced its not the paper, but HP.

Edited by user Friday, March 11, 2022 3:57:51 PM(EST)  | Reason: Not specified

Hey All - New here. I'm having a similar issue. I'm using 'Glossy Presentation' and the standard 'HP Brochure Glossy 200g' - I'm going to try the recommendation of doing Heavy Glossy or Photo Matte 200g. I've been getting prints on AIVA printable matte vinyl paper - on my xerox workcentre 6515 the color is vivid however it isn't rated for vinyl paper and the black toner comes out 'light'. There isn't a way to tweak this. On the HP the printer works great but some of the photos look desaturated, faded, light. I am also NOT using genuine toner and opted for True Image compatible toner which is also inside my Xerox at the moment. I don't think the issue is the toner nor the paper. I will try these settings out and hope for the best.

How is the resolution on that imageCLASS LBP622Cdw?

My HP is 600x600dpi, but HP uses some technomagic making it nearly as good as my first Lexmark which was 1200x1200 (but always breaking down).

I bought, and returned a Brother 8360 which was 2400x600 and it's resolution was not nearly as good as my HP m454. (the horrible color was a much bigger problem).



I've had two HP M454's and one 480, and it's seriously weird. I would have recommended the HP Color LaserJet Pro line as well up through Dec, when they've been hell for me since.
My 454 over last summer would occasionally have a rare print come out bad, then it started doing nothing but bad for hours at a time, then days at a time, and now weeks.
It's worked for only 12 hours in the past 2 months. During the last 12 hour period that it worked, it printed 3 single prints in a row perfect. then 2 sets of 2 terrible. then a whole bunch of of single prints (with only one bad one half way through) the rest of the night.

Yes it was on heavy glossy, and because I'm wondering if I'm loosing my mind, I made sure to triple check this and even take photos of the settings.

In the morning and for the entire week since, it only prints terrible on this paper again.

It's not that HP's help cannot work the problem, its that they WONT. They spent a year fighting with me, telling me my warranty expired before I bought it. Then just sent me a new printer as my actual warranty expired instead of working the issue.

This vinyl paper is the best I can find! I really wish you made something similar for inkjet.

and before you suggest your weatherproof inkjet paper, I've bought both glossy and matte and it is not even in the same league as this stuff. And frankly your website should not suggest it as an inkjet alternative for people looking at this laser vinyl paper.

Its not that the other paper is bad, it's that this laser vinyl is so damn good!

The inkjet paper does not seal itself to surfaces as well, so after just a couple days in a shower, or sink, it begins to loosen itself. Results varied.
I am impressed at how well the matte can absolutely waterproof waterbased dye inks on its own, while the glossy only provided some very low level water resistance for that. It does well against scratches too.
If this paper was better (and cheaper), I would have switched to waterproof pigmented inks. because I cannot even pick up a laser canon, or any other color laser printers right now.. except HPs which seem cursed, and Brothers who are color blind.

I'm incredibly frustrated trying to find a color laser printer available to buy, trying to cast the demons out of my HP, and looking for inkjet vinyl paper that is is nearly as good as your laser vinyl paper. Most reviews on amazon are by idiots. Their tests are lacking, and they fail to have any understanding of ink:(

Edited by user Monday, April 4, 2022 1:30:54 PM(EST)  | Reason: Not specified

I love your companies service and how you've worked with everyone on here.

It's a shame my business has been shut down most of this year.

My HP 454 worked for 12 hours last month printing on this weatherproof vinyl perfectly using heavy glossy. It had 2 misprints that came out faded, but the other 50 were perfect.
The next morning it went back to having them ALL faded and looking terrible:(

It's just bizarre. For a few months I used this paper on that setting, (and a simular paper for many months prior) and had only a few prints randomly come out faded, while the rest have been flawless.

Other settings do not work, or do not stay adhered once the sticker is peeled.

I've been doing as much research as I can, try as many HP's as I can, and I still have nothing. Maybe their was a firmware update? maybe the paper is flawed?
the same paper all came out fine in a brother, just the brother had horrible color calibration (on all paper).

I've been wasting a tonne of paper testing other ways to print.


Since I cannot get lasers, I'm trying to find a good vinyl for inkjets now. If anyone can recommend one....

Just an update. I've got some new weatherproof vinyl for laser, as well as inkjet.
I did extensive testing on each setting on my HP laser, and this time "Labels" was the best.
However the red still flaked off.

I have a new Canon laser coming next week, and we'll try that.

Your weatherproof inkjet impressed me at how well the color stayed on with non waterproof ink when wet.
I prefer to use waterproof ink, so that's what my further testing had.
It was fairly scratch resistant when dry. However neither gloss nor matte offers any scratch resistant when wet.
Also, the paper itself did not last long in my shower or sinks before loosing all stickiness. I've had some of your vinyl in there for years.

Sheetlabels had an inkjet vinyl that worked well (except on black), but they changed manufactures. As of 2023 it scratches easier than anything I've tested. It's so bad it cannot even go through the cutter (and sometimes the printer) without being scratched.
Their old product felt like a unicorn. Scratch resistant wet/dry, and wouldn't loose stickiness for inkjet.

If you ever update your polyester to be more scratch resistant, I'd love it. Sheetlabels polyester is great that sense, but soooooo thin it'll jam in printers without a pass through, and miscuts almost everytime in the diecast machine.